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Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 19:35
by Snooooop
yea, not very accurate at long range....i just want one to shoot for fun, im not planning on getting into a gun fight with it.
Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 19:34
by *|DTF|*Seti_Sniper
Monty_BROz wrote:you people are weird !
well M ! what the hell did u expect by some ppl that runds aound in snow and dark half of the year ?
Krasavitsa wrote:Didn't say I didn't like hunting... Said I didn't like Heggis
Hey Krasa be kind to the guys from the cold north, they dont know better
@Heggis
but what grains do you use in your .308's Heggis?
I personal (as marksman shooter) prefer the 168 grains since it has a okay recoil and still able to get you a good precision. in the 3-400m range
when i have to shoot high winds i pref the 190grains but the after a good day with those i need to rest on the sofa.
when it comes to the brand, im more to Norma than Lapua in 308's
but lapua are the pref in small bore riffles.
I did a lot of shooting with some 145grains special loaded for the danish police, and they worked fine...... in no wind, but out of the box of 20 i always had one bad cartridge so i stopped using them.
PS: nice 2 c some have some qualified thoughts when it comes to the subject... not just, "the bigger the better" say
Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 17:41
by Krasavitsa
Didn't say I didn't like hunting... Said I didn't like Heggis
Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 14:32
by Monty_BROz
you people are weird !
Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 14:01
by Kosanderi
Snooooop wrote:Any of you heard anything bad about AK-47s? Im thinkin bout getting one in 7.62 for Christmas
Every time I take my
Saiga to the range I hear someone whining. But I guess it's ok since he's only jealous.
Now to the point:
From a sport shooters point of view it isn't the best choise for anything. It's not that accurate, Recoil(can be redused with a buffer & adjustable gas block(perhaps little lightening of slide, gas piston & bolt)) doesn't make it easy to shoot fast & trigger is very heavy & "stretchable"(That can be easily fixed though & only the heavy stays(for heavy one needs to dremel a little)). Even though you can make a decent & cheap project for yourself, It's never as good as AR-15 or -10.
From a recreation shooters point of view it's fun to shoot every now & then. Action shooting most of all, since the guns "spirit" is just for that.
From a military shooter point of view it's a damn good weapon for tough enviroment where visibility is not that good & firing ranges stay under 100-150 yds. Very heavy slide & powerful recoil spring combined with well desing cartrige(for automatic weapons) makes it quite jam-free. Ballistics of the bullet are good for that kind of ranges & you can also shoot a target behind a tree much thicker that .223 rem ever could. Accuracy for this is good enough.
From hunters point of view it's - everything from a fox to deer will fall with this one, but there are better options available.
Now, at this point I would like to point out that even though the cartridge is labelled as 7.62x39 one must remember that it's russian 7.62. Unlike 7.62 NATO(.308 Win) it doesn't use 7.82 bullets but 7.88-7.92(depending on source & bullet). I recommend Sako 117A bullets with Lapua shells for reloading. With these components & my saiga(iron sights) I have shot little less than 10 cm / 150 meters ~ 2 MOA. With good AR & optics good shooter gets less than 5 cm / 300 meters. I haven't still tested the true accuracy of Saiga with a scope but I think I can do better than 2 MOA then.
videos:
Propaganda... Fun to watch though & the question was have I ever heard anything bad about it - this is about it.
Something else... Ranking is quite weird, but the rest of it is almost true
..
But hey, It's DAMN FUN!!!
Posted: 15 Dec 2007, 04:20
by Snooooop
hmm krasa doesnt like hunting????? ive never been myself, seems like it would be fun tho. Any of you heard anything bad about AK-47s? Im thinkin bout getting one in 7.62 for Christmas
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 22:27
by Heggis
Well hope you take your precious scope with you, so it would see something else than indoors... Or are you afraid it would break
u-u-u somebody mentioned
bug
(I know it's an old pic, but it's winter. no bugs around)
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 18:10
by Kosanderi
If anyone asks me, I'm
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 17:52
by Krasavitsa
Kossi, pls tell that evil bugger finn that I can still read his posts AND ignore him!!
hihi, u know i can't ignore u for long Heggis <3
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 12:59
by Heggis
Again? Why? I'm innocent
(and I know your reading this anyway)
We had couple of days of rabbit/fox hunting so that wabbit picture was from one of them. You can see one of the shotguns leaning the car in the dog picture
That rabbit moment was just too fast to get to the guns and I had camera in my hands so all I did was shoot. Those dogs are Russian Hounds if someone wants to know... The left ones name is Elmo (which is close to Elmer
)
Posted: 14 Dec 2007, 06:33
by Krasavitsa
*ignoring heggis*
Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 04:39
by Snooooop
hehe, you need a shotgun for times like that.....
Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 03:59
by Heggis
We got 2 small-mediocre sized females. On both of them bodyweight was about 120kg (265 lbs). Head was big, body not. I guess tells something about females *cough*
Oh I think that sentence is gonna get to me at somepoint
SSShhhhh we hawe to be wewy wewy quiet, it's wabbit season.
Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 03:35
by Snooooop
hehe, i guess as long as you clean it after you use it, itll be fine..how big was that moose thing anyway
Posted: 13 Dec 2007, 01:41
by Heggis
That's why guns/scopes have coating...
[mumbling]and in the evening you clean the guns...[/mumbling]
And about the fotothing... I won't show you tongue. I'll let some females do it for me...